Once you start to have money, you get a money dependency. No matter how rich you get, the “baseline you really need to live the life you want and nothing more” growths together with your wealth.
Take lottery winners and ask them if they could give away half of their gains. Will you be surprised if most of them say no, even though the day before they would have set their “minimum needed to live a happy life for the rest of my days” at a much smaller fraction of it?
Now take a similar population, but who in addition rationalized them deserving that money through their hard work and talent.
That’s 247 billionaires we could have put in the buffet. Never trust a billionaire. Eat them at first opportunity.
And I don’t believe shit of it. I think all their “donations” to foundations and “charity” are tax scams. I’ve seen so many of these deeply immoral and greedy fucks do this and go on charity drives and I’m not buying any of it, I know these people are just scamming us somehow, they don’t do anything out of the kindness of their hearts and betterment of society, it’s all about money.
The worst part is- they are not the problem per se, the system is. The system creates this, capitalism creates this, it promotes these people to the top sure, but if not them then anybody else willing to sell their souls to the literal antichrist.
Capitalism is a malignant cancer and needs to be excised and chemod or we all die. DIE. Civilization GONE. Humanity GONE. Culture GONE.
It’s us or capitalism.
These people are genuinely sick in the head, this level of pointless greed is not normal. Of course they aren’t going through with it.
Exactly like gambling addicts. They are blinded by capitalism, because capitalism is nothing but gambling, and not only are these people addicts, the game has completely usurped society itself. Just think about it- what dictates our society? It’s not our values, or ideals, our wishes and wants and dreams, it’s the economy.
The Economy is a fucking golem that has overtaken democracy, we have no say, what The Economy wants always takes precedence, and the only thing The Economy wants is MORE MORE MORE MORE MORE MORE MORE MORE MORE MORE MORE. MORE people, MORE things, MORE money, MORE. You know what else does that? Cancer.
Exactly! And like cancer, it will eventually consume and destroy its host. It may take time, but it will.
The prospect of still being billionaires, but with less billions, was just too much to handle
I mean, you don’t become a billionaire by giving money away.
Uh, yeah you do. What do you think charities are for? Helping people?
Exactly why they need to be taxed more.
Billionaires shouldn’t exist to begin with and don’t assume tax money are used by governments for good.
They broke their arms patting themselves on their backs and can’t write checks anymore. 😢
Financial obesity is an existential threat to any society that tolerates it, and needs to cease being celebrated, rewarded, and positioned as an aspirational goal.
Financial obesity is literally capitalism. That’s the disease. Period.
Financial obesity is a large part of capitalism, but it’s by no means exclusive to it. Replacing capitalism with anything that tolerates obscene wealth accumulation would be a categorical failure.
I really like that as a term, never come across it before.
The fact that there are 256 billionaires is an absolute failure of our society.
Lol… While gates foundation does do some decent work. Let’s be real it is astroturf operation inherently
Also, Warren already back out.
So this is just a shill op for these “good” parasites.
Read between the lines folks, these people are your enemies
The only good billionaire is a dead billionaire whose stolen wealth has been returned to the people
also Gates have accused of vaccine colonialism by african countries, hes not doing out of his own heart, its most likely his way of laundering money, plus to distance himself from epstein.
This doesn’t make any sense.
He’s been doing this since long before Epstein was arrested.
He also doesn’t need to launder money because he’s already paid tax on all his money. He’s becoming demonstrably, significantly less wealthy in the course of distributing vaccines. If he were laundering money he would be becoming more wealthy.
To people like this, the number in their bank account is like a scoreboard. They didn’t get that high up the leaderboard purely by accident.
Anyone who thinks that kind of person is just going to give up their place on the scoreboard is either incredibly naïve or gullible.
Don’t get me wrong, there are some people to there who may have some semblance of empathy, but as seen by the title, that’s about 1 in 25.
They also don’t do good things out of the goodness of their hearts, they do it to win social points so that they don’t get gunned down in the middle of a NYC street.
This doesn’t make much sense to me.
Sure. Gates is not a “nice” person. The business practices involved in becoming a billionaire require him to be a vile human being. Granted.
That said, he has given up his place on the leaderboard. He has become dramatically less wealthy as a result of his philanthropic work.
What are you claiming is Gates’ motivation here? Not getting murdered? Come on. There are much more practical, reliable, and cheaper means to achieve that.
To people like this, the number in their bank account is like a scoreboard.
It’s not just that.
Besides the humanitarian work that the gates foundation does do “voluntarily”, money is agency, it is power.
There is very little argument and reason to believe that “people” and “countries” would actually be more responsible in spending it.
If there was a big, motivated, carefully planned social movement that had a solid idea and spending plan, things would be different. And such a group could also force them to give up that money to spend it on these things. But such a movement doesn’t exist.
As it stands, the idea that they would voluntarily give up money is dumb. To do what? Feed the corruption and nepo network in their country, that then will benefit only the people that are just like them, but less rich? That makes no sense.
It has to come from public pressure and equal wealth taxes.
I assume that tax avoidance is also a factor.
What taxes?
Let’s not forget
lobbyingbribery. And since said political influence is ostensibly being bought for the sake of charity, nobody would even blink.Just my theory, mind you. But every one of these charitable foundations is primarily done for tax avoidance. No question. Well that is every one of these foundations except for the one set up by Mr President Tiny Dick. He just can’t resist the temptation of embezzlement. I mean seriously, he bankrupted THREE casinos, and had a judge not just dissolve his foundation, but also bar him from running one of these so-called charitable foundations ever again.
I don’t even want to know how you can fuck up that egregiously. One of those things where you have to wonder if successfully finding understanding of how it happened is going to hopelessly corrupt your own soul for all of eternity.
Why would you waste $10 to save $5 in tax?
It’s the difference between spending money to have your will enacted, and having your money taken by the people, for use of the commons.
The latter is a very dangerous precedent to set. You don’t want the people feeling like they can have their will enacted.
by followed up you mean: “Ok after I die, I will donate half of my money to my tax-exempt family-owned-and-operated charity, that just happened to only pay salaries and donations to causes that serve the interests of our family-owned-and-operated shell companies”… :D
it’s like sequeezing your late’s father dry-drenched cumsocket which he used his entire life, then drinking it, and brag about it… to which I say thanks but no fucking thanks.
On an unrelated note, Bill Gates is in the epstein list.
And he didn’t donate shit without an economic incentive, it’s all a tax writeoff, it’s all a scam. Even that shit he did pumping money into AIDS research as “charity” went into companies where he held stake himself. It’s so fucking vile.
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And the reason Melinda divorced him.
Serious or joke?
We can only speculate, but his infidelity with staffers was known, and him being on the Epstein list may have been the final straw.
A decent person would have gone to the press with it, but she’s wealthy so she didn’t.
Because it would reflect poor on her, too. It’s like when people don’t report being victims of sexual assault, because they know people will look at them differently forever, doesn’t even have to be that extreme, just imagine being a normal family in a normal neighborhood where everybody knows everyone for decades, and then you find out your husband has a fling with a younger woman. It’s just embarrassing, you know?
You and me and all of us lie all the time about way less embarrassing things, because we don’t want to be seen a certain way, as victims, as having been duped or gullible or even the butt of a joke.
Imagine on that level, where you are married to one of the richest men in the world, and your rollerdex contains thousands of names to some of the most powerful people on the planet, and you “go to the press with it”.
It would change your life forever, the scandal would stain every aspect of your life F O R E V E R.
You don’t understand, they’re making money so much faster than they can reasonably give away.
This is kind of the actual problem though. It’s hard to actually have effective charities. Even some of the most ethical, and well run charities, end up with surplus funds (Dolly Parton’s charity for example). The government is setup to spend that much money helping people though. But paying taxes is somehow bad and wrong. I don’t know if I had a real point other than maybe we should actually tax these rich folks so they can achieve their dream of giving away at least half their wealth.
There was a post a while ago where a German person posted that they were confused by the US nonprofit systems, they basically said I pay my taxes and the government makes sure it’s spent feeding the needy and foreign aid and all that. Why should I go through the trouble of researching all these charities trying to find a good one to donate to.
Not that Germany doesn’t have non profits, but they really should be for special interest type cases where you explicitly want to send money to a cause, not general global well being.
Every country would need to adopt a universal taxation of wealthy individual for increased taxes to work. What I am saying is if US has a 75% for those earning over certain amount. Then other countries have to do the same. If not then Billionaires will run/relocate to the cheapest taxes. Which would be easy since the country they move to will be happy to get Billionaires tax money.
Relocation is a bogus threat. Billionaires will not leave first world countries.
Someone needs to read up on “capital flight”, this is a known phenomenon we’re talking about, not speculation.
I’m not saying it doesn’t ever happen, but we really need to stop talking about it like it’s such a serious threat to the country’s financial stability that we should chicken out and stop taxing the rich.
The billionaires in all those other tax haven countries also repeatedly make the same threats to their own governments too. They’re playing us for chumps.
it’s such a serious threat to the country’s financial stability that we should chicken out and stop taxing the rich.
No one’s saying this, this is a straw man.
It’s just a simple fact that there is a ‘sweet spot’ when it comes to maximizing tax revenue. It’s the same as if you’re selling a product for $10, then 100 people buy it, and you assume that you’ll double your $1000 profit if you sell it for $20 instead, but then the number of buyers went down to 10, and now your bottom line is $800 less, instead.
“Just tax them more” is not the simple/obvious solution it appears to be on the surface. Also, people don’t just not react when stuff like this changes, to protect themselves; just compare tax revenue presently to what it was when it capped out at (iirc) 91%.
And even IF ‘turning that dial’ simply increased tax revenue, it needs to be combined with that revenue being spent productively, for it to make any difference at all. Hell, I think the US already brings in more than enough tax revenue to do everything we want it to do, if it was doing it as efficiently as it could be.
No one’s saying this, this is a straw man.
…and then you go on to spew exactly that talking point at length.
Fuck off, liar. This is what I identified as a straw man:
it’s such a serious threat to the country’s financial stability that we should chicken out and stop taxing the rich.
Now quote me “spew[ing] exactly that talking point” that we should stop taxing the rich. You won’t, because you can’t, because I didn’t.
Shameless, pathetic liar.
…you do understand that “stop taxing the rich” in that sentence doesn’t literally mean set it to 0%, yeah? The only strawmanning here is you taking things way too literally. You still argued exact the thing I was talking about, i.e. that taxing them might make us lose revenue therefore we shouldn’t do it.
Also, ad hominems get you blocked, so bye bye
