No, in this case it’s a two way cycle track that takes up exactly one car lane. Before the bike path it was a shoulder, but if they removed the bike path they’d almost certainly turn it into a flex lane like the bottom deck of the bridge.

That being said, I’m sure it would induce demand and cause even more people to commute from Richmond (or worse, far flung suburbs like Antioch) to Marin until traffic is worse. And there’d be no way to bike since bikes aren’t allowed in the car freeway lanes, and there are no alternative routes over the bay.

Also do you have a source for more bikes using it? I’d look it up but am on my phone and too lazy.

you need to understand, that the murican car industry has made everything unreachable by walking and biking. its a total alien form of transport in newnaziland.

Careless/reckless driving is entirely normalized in America. Think of the number of people you see speeding, rolling stop signs, blowing through pedestrian crosswalks, speeding up to make the yellow light and “accidentally” running the red. Think of all the people who chat on the phone, attend work meetings, watch videos, do their makeup, and eat entire meals while behind the wheel of a moving car. Think of all the people you’ve heard essentially bragging about how much they speed, who bemoan all the “slow” people on the road who are just going the posted speed limit, or who feel they’re being unfairly targeted when they get a speeding ticket for going ten-over.

Chances are if you’ve driven a car in America then you yourself are guilty of having done some of those things. I know I certainly am, though I’ve been intentional about taming my own hubris behind the wheel over recent years. But it’s hard to accept that what is normal to you is also wrong or dangerous. Especially in a survivor biased environment like reckless driving culture, where nothing bad generally happens to you until it does and then as people get more reckless the higher the chances are you won’t walk away from an accident. And so when you see a post online shaming people for something you do on your way to work every day, you get defensive because to you that’s just normal behavior.

Edit: To be clear, I’m not defending these people or their actions, just offering an explanation for OPs question. Still, I expect to get downvoted for the very reason I just articulated.

Based on this and a couple recent other threads I am becoming pretty convinced that more and more of the people on Lemmy are children.

Edit: I can admit that I was a dumbass who thought that I could do all the things while driving as a teenager. I am guessing the people downvoting me are either teenagers or people who don’t remember being teenagers.

If you’ve ever driven through American cities, you’ll see that a high percentage of drivers aren’t really driving. They’re using their phone and tangentially feeding occasional input into their vehicles. Automakers keep adding Federally required “safety” features to cars like auto-brake and lane-departure correction, I’ve heard from some people they use those to make an ersatz “autopilot” and just let the car ping-pong down the road while they use their phones. Others, as soon as they *almost *come to a stop, the phone is already in their hand again and they’re paying zero attention to their surroundings, probably thinking they’re being a “smart” cell phone driver.

It is rare I see a USian driver actually operating their vehicle as their sole focus these days.

I’ve personally got in the habit of managing cars behind and in front of me with longer stopping distances and early brake flashing to get their attention off their phones and back on the road so I don’t become an SUV sandwich, and also a quick polite horn toot when the drivers in front don’t realize the light cycle has been green for 5 seconds because some other driver didn’t pull forward, because all of the front drivers are on their phones.

So, they probably feel like they have to defend their idiocy.

Muricans and their cars xD

From my experience with a different fight in NYC, these people don’t give a shit. They have no shame, they only care about their golden kickbacks.

The solution is obviously that the bikers are to join the daily traffic jam in a car, instead of entirely skipping the queue like selfish bastards.

/s, for the satire-impaired.

Cyclists weren’t allowed on the bridge at all until the bike lane, since it was a freeway bridge, so they hope they’ll just go away (and probably encourage them to buy cars or take the once-an-hour bus).

Do you also watch Movies while driving? No hand interaction necessary. Just press play at the start of the ride.

Of course that’s illegal.

It’s probably on a hands free mount rolling at the camera angle.

However, it’s still illegal to have video playing within view of the driver, so he’s still breaking the law

It’s a well-known fallacy in urbanism that bike lanes “see almost zero use.” Bikes have much less visual weight than a car, so one driver in a lane will look like a lane being used while one bicyclist in a lane will look like the same lane being “half-used.” In addition, bike lanes are much more efficient at keeping travelers moving at a constant rate so that they don’t bunch up, meaning that a busy road with backed-up traffic will look like it’s getting more use than an adjacent bike lane, when what’s actually happening is that the bike lane is just moving travelers more efficiently.

Furthermore, the “induced demand” phenomenon means that adding capacity actually doesn’t reduce traffic, at least not in the long term. We have decades of data proving it. The amount of cars that the lane can accommodate will invariably be taken up by people taking that route who had previously taken a different route. The only way to reduce traffic for a given route is to either create more routes or remove traffic from the road. Bike lanes do both.

In reality, for most routes, if you compare the number of people being moved on the bike lane, you’ll often find that it equals or even exceeds the number of people being moved on the car lane immediately adjacent to it. More importantly, they also tend to reduce the number of drivers on the same route and nearby routes as they encourage travelers who would ordinarily be afraid of biking to ditch the car.

I can’t speak to that specific bike lane, of course, but in general the argument that “it’s not doing anything!” is a fallacy, and replacing the bike lane with a motor vehicle travel lane would almost certainly result in worse traffic, not better.

You mean the 3ft wide lane you couldn’t fit a compact car in? Who’s going to drive in that lane? Brodizers? Mall crawlers?

Source?

One person was in their car tele conferencing from FUCKING TRAFFIC you stripped and rounded nut.

When you are driving your attention should be on the road not on the phone while a hearing about bike lane is going on

which is kind of funny wanting to remove a bike lane that help protect cyclist while driving dangerously

Being on a video call while operating a motor vehicle is dangerous and should be illegal in any sane jurisdiction under distracted driving laws.