• Flames5123@sh.itjust.works
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    7 days ago

    But he keeps going. Freely. So it is volunteering now. The first 15 hours was not volunteering by definition, but it is afterwards.

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      7 days ago

      I pretty clearly addressed this already.

      If you are required to go, it is not volunteering.

      And this kid doesn’t continue because he enjoyed slavery. It’s because he wanted to be around cats again, and then discovered that, when not being forced into slavery, he actually enjoys giving his time freely. Not because he enjoyed slavery.

      Your entire assertion is ridiculous

      Edit: and if the only way you know how to teach kids to enjoy volunteering is to force them into institutionalized slavery, then you’re a shitty teacher and a shitty parent.

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            7 days ago

            maybe if you did yours you’d understand that “and” means both conditions need to be fulfilled for a statement to be true. so how is that child considered a property of anyone in this situation?

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          you aren’t strictly forced to go to school, it’s your parents who will suffer the consequences for you not going, but yes forcing kids to go to school when they clearly don’t want to is an extremely shitty thing and leads to lots of issues.

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          7 days ago

          Some words are binary: a thing either is or is not X. A word like “volunteer” does not have degrees. It either is is not volunteering. It either does or does not match the definition.

          There are plenty of other words in the English language which can apply to a wide variety of possible situations and circumstances or subjects, but we’re not talking about one of those words.

          And you’re really not helping your argument by making me correct you, once again, on your vocabulary.

          • 0x0@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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            7 days ago

            Bro, the reason the school calls them “volunteer hours” is because the places that need help are asking for volunteers. Even though it’s mandatory for students, these are hours at a volunteering opportunity. Interacting with the community is part of growing up, and part of their education. It’s not slavery.

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              7 days ago

              Just because the location is asking for “volunteers “and the school sends child slave labor doesn’t make that child slave labor magically “volunteering”.

              Words have meanings. The meanings of words don’t just magically change because you happen to be wrong.

              Bro

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                7 days ago

                They do change contextually, though? That’s sorta the whole basis of language.

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                    It quite literally is. All encoding of information is definitionally contextual, language (formal or not) is no exception. This doesn’t change because the language is spoken.